Would God create a person just to then send them to Hell?

Something seems innately very bad when preaching “We all get into Heaven”, “Everything is planned and predetermined”, and “Everyone is Forgiven”…. 

What’s to stop someone from thinking, I was meant to Rape this woman, it is my mission, my plan here on Earth… A person could easily validate an evil existence and even come to feel they are fulfilling a purpose in this life… May even come to see themselves as fulfilling some divine or holy purpose, completely free from guilt. 

It is a Moral paradox in a way… one not easily solved. 

We may even ask ourselves; Would God create a person just to then send them to Hell?… That too seems morally wrong. 

I personally think if someone comes to believe that and acts on it, that there is just no afterlife for them… more demon than man, perhaps even born without a Soul… Someone unfortunately meant to be evil and be discarded… Perhaps a complete product of their environment with no sense of Freedom of will. 

  • It seems morally wrong to let someone into heaven after doing that… it is also morally wrong to create a soul or person just to send them to Hell or discard them… which is why I tend to believe that those people may not actually have souls… Perhaps given a false or perceived soul meant to be overtaken by evil. 

It is Morally wrong to establish a system that would make people feel that they can get away with anything as well… certainly not in the World’s best interest. 

  • Makes a World less safe to make people feel they can get away with anything and that there isn’t such a thing as Eternal Justice. 
  • It could also cause Humans to seek our own Justice while we our down here, if God isn’t going to punish them, then surely, we must.  
  • That is not a proper way to do things… would be considered poor management by God. 

 

That is what I think about Pure evil anyways… How could they walk amongst us in heaven after that? And how could we allow for a system that would allow that to happen without proper Justice?… 

 

 

I think for lighter sentences; the punishment will fit the crime… I don’t think it all comes down to, sin and you are eliminated… Which only God in Heaven knows the exact and appropriate sentence and how to administer it. 

You live a life of stealing and avoiding work? Perhaps you will have to work the length of multiple lifetimes before you get into Heaven… maybe even have to live out a life or two where everything you have gets stolen or your loved one got killed in a robbery… 

You kill someone drunk driving… prepare to live out all of the consequences of your actions, live out the lives affected by it… 

Just drinking and driving I am sure there will be appropriate punishment, because you could have killed someone or put someone in a wheelchair for life, made someone a quadriplegic… 

You get the Jist… they will be creative and appropriate punishments in my opinion… I am sure they will go a little beyond just getting even… that your victims are +1 on the scoreboard. 

We might ask ourselves again… but why would God send us here to then punish us? Especially if our life is essentially part of some nearly predetermined plan…. Answer: Because this Universe and Life requires Justice… It requires the Fear of God… A punishment has to happen, or the system doesn’t work… If we just threatened to send criminals to jail, and never punished them or sent them to jail, imagine what would happen…. It would not be good; evil would become emboldened… A punishment is necessary…  

It is also necessary for the well-being of victims… we need to know that there is Eternal Justice to move on with our lives and be able to forgive… I have “God Gets Even” Tattooed on my leg, it was a large part of my meditation and being able to let go of the desire for Justice and Revenge… It helps a victim obtain inner peace once again… It cuts down on revenge crimes and all of that as well… 

Punishment for crimes here in the afterlife are necessary is my point… Which God sees everything, there is no getting away with nothing… Just because you didn’t get caught by the cops here, doesn’t mean you don’t still have punishment coming. 

I joke to myself that after reading this or hearing me talk about it, you have accepted the terms and agreements of life and living in this universe…  

There are Morals, there are Rules, there are Punishments… Fear of God leads to the Love of God (One of my favorite quotes and will be a blog post someday)… First, we fear and learn to follow the rules, then when following the rules becomes second nature and we are moral people, we come to feel protected by God and his promise of Heaven and an Eternal Life, we feel his Love… 

Book Club (Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely): Chapter 4…

Thoughts in order as they appeared while reading the Chapter…

 

Market/Social Norms… very fascinating… Excellent work on breaking down the idea/viewpoint/perspective into a few pages. This Author is very good at getting his point across in the quickest way possible… It is certainly a book of just one idea after another, he doesn’t use much filler, if even at all.

I think in some households there are polite ways to ask someone if they wanted any help covering the costs for a big meal. Amongst some it could definitely be considered a nice gesture… if it is done to the side and one on one… even if turned down, some might appreciate the offer if money is somewhat tight.

  • Exceptions to the rules
  • I do see his point though, still a good example!

The gifts section made me think about birthday/Christmas and the environment. Our social norms are killing the environment quite a bit. We buy and share many gifts that often get discarded or just piled up in some closet if you know what I mean… We definitely have an over consumption problem in this country… But I can understand the social norms and why they can be viewed as important (it almost hurts just thinking of not exchanging gifts and things)…

  • It is one thing when we get stuff for kids or those in need of things… but there is a common expression in this country, what is the gift for the person who has everything? I am not even sure we have a good answer for this, but we still find gifts to give.
  • Gift cards would fall under the crossover of social/market norms… which can often be seen in a negative light… puts a number/value next to the gift
  • To me it is nice and not too bad on the environment to send someone out to dinner… or give credit to buy a book or something like that. Perhaps audible is onto something with their credit per book. Rather than giving a specific amount, it is just for whatever book. Perhaps we could adopt something like this in more places, even restaurants. Like a credit for dinner, appetizer and a drink, rather than a specific amount of money… you know what I mean! Something to think about anyways.
  • Experiences… Hard not to tie to monetary value though
  • Small Trinkets?
  • Perhaps make an arrangement to only share gifts every so many years for adults over a certain age or those not in need?
  • It is just not the same world anymore… as a nation and world we are becoming self-aware… I wish it made environmental sense to give lots of gifts. It is a great social norm in theory!
  • I could still even see it as a social norm in some form even in heaven where we have everything at our disposal, because it is such a fine gesture… One might even consider it logical to human nature.

That “scrambled sentence task” experiment was very interesting… very fascinating how and how deeply the different norms are hardwired into us, even on a subconscious level…

I keep having thoughts while reading this chapter of how family businesses can tend to bridge the gap between norms in the workplace.

  • (Note to self (possible blog post): Talk about how social norms have been creeping into the workplace, not as cold and calculating anymore… Or are they just recalculating to meet the notion that happy employees are generally more productive? A bit cynical of a perspective, probably true in some places)

I still tend to believe that social and market norms can be integrated when put in the proper context and when given the proper explanations… This stems more from a belief that we as humans are rational beings and not just programmed computers.

  • I guess that I tend to believe that cultures and people can change and that they aren’t set in stone.

Some rather large and far reaching assumptions for one simple study (Daycare Study)

Sometimes the science world can believe too much that we are all such identical computers in my own opinion… Believe too much that it is an exact science…

  • Just some terminology used gives me that feeling
  • To be fair, most scientists don’t feel themselves above their own findings and not subject to their own reasonings… To say that this doesn’t stem from a feeling of superiority, rather just being scientifically minded and curious.
  • They can take out the unique “Being Human” element… know what I mean? That we have the closest thing to freedom of will on the Planet.
  • He alters our norms as he writes and publishes this book… Contributing to the Zeitgeist.

We our evolving all of the time… our culture is constantly evolving; our personal minds are constantly evolving…

We are all unique as well in a way, where almost every individual relationship develops its own customs over time. Not every relationship is the same… we don’t apply the same norms to every relationship.

The reason I stopped taking sociology in college was that I didn’t like the idea of studying humans. I felt that it would go straight to my head, perhaps make me think I am better than or above other people… didn’t seem humanistic… I also felt it might seep into personal relationships, studying everybody and not be able to turn it off… I more wanted to experience life/people, not study it/them.

  • I think I was meant to think that at the time
  • I felt that way about 5 or 10 minutes into my first sociology class

I think companies can have it both ways… especially coming from a small town…

  • Families have rules we have to abide by as well
  • It’s all about context… also a lot about ownership and management delivering a message well…
  • Definitely truer of Mom & Pop stores
  • There is a bottom line of… we are trying to be a functioning business that is trying to stay open for a long time. But both sides agreeing to that common principle can establish a common ground more based on social norms
  • You keep taking advantage of family members and there are consequences as well.
  • Perhaps I am not describing both ways, but more of a social norm driven idea… A foundation on social norms with market norms (necessary ones) then weaved in…
  • I am not sure I understood what he meant by can’t have it both ways at first… Became clearer when I read the next section on Employer/Employees and he used the same terminology.

Thoughts on education might need their own blog post or book for that matter!

  • I personally see the value in standardized testing… keeps us more on the same page rather than everyone getting completely different educations everywhere with wide ranging curriculums and standards… Helps with admissions into college…
  • Standardized testing was/is also probably the biggest driver of research into socioeconomic differences, cultural differences, learning disabilities, etc… we are truly working towards not having any child left behind… figuring out what needs to be changed and altered to education…
  • There is a growing body of research that shows how much of an impact just being able to fire bad teachers would have on public education… It is too important to protect bad teachers the way we do. A bad teacher can impact a child years into the future if they get behind. Not everyone with a degree in teaching is cut out for it or puts forth the necessary effort, like with any career for that matter.
  • I do think we also need to instill a better respect for teachers in our society… Respect goes a long way… If a kid sees a teacher as an authority on a subject, it helps, changes their perception of the teacher and the class… Perhaps we may need to create a new title for teachers, similar to a professor at the college level, that might help. Mr. And Mrs. May not be doing it… An added level of respect, to be distinguished.
  • Make kids realize they are getting a Top Tier education. Try and instill more of a college feeling…
  • Something I like to say to kids is… you are all pretty much over the original bar of being a genius (at a young age)… what many don’t realize is that the bar gets continually raised to only keep a certain small % within it… You are genius’s getting a genius level education.
  • There are some negatives to everyone thinking they are a genius, but the positives probably outweigh the negative… and a lot of the negative can be taught out of someone… Part of being a genius is realizing that no one is right all time! for example…
  • Thinking you are average I believe helps a person learn to delegate responsibilities and trust other people. Could very much teach that to genius’s as well though, with proper lessons.
  • Perhaps we could have a graduation after middle school? Tell them how smart they actually are… try and make Junior/Senior year feel more like college in a way…
  • Just some short thoughts… would really love to dive into a think tank and get all into trade schools, etc… I have all sorts of thoughts about learning disabilities as well.

I concur it would be nice to move the bar closer to social norms on the social norm/market norm spectrum…

Some interesting thoughts and anecdotes at the end of the Chapter… Thoughts that I felt probably aren’t the conclusion of the discussion, but rather just the beginning.

Fun chapter, very thought provoking… A lot of writing and typing this week!

A Poem… “Unleash Love”

Unleash Love 

 

Love & Jealousy are forever intertwined 

To Love is to grow Jealous 

To Love deeply is to grow deeply Jealous 

America rejects Jealousy, it rejects Love 

Burned by Jealousy, Americans sought to eliminate it 

It is not something to be eliminated, but rather Tamed and Harnessed 

To understand and harness Love & Jealousy, is to let Love take over ourselves and the World 

To unleash it 

Brainstorming about cities and work/life balance… living arrangements…

This is just a brainstorm about cities, jobs, and living arrangements… Not my best stuff but will share anyways… some people may find it interesting or thought provoking… 

 

I was wondering about the potential benefits of redesigning buildings and work environments so that people could live where they work? Or perhaps at least very close… 

  • Environmentally I think it could be very good, greatly cut down on emissions getting to and from work… getting back and forth to work is probably one of, if not the most contributing factors to traffic. 
  • I personally would really like living where I work and not having to travel an hour or more in both directions every day as many people too… that just sounds awful in my opinion… seems a negative thing that greatly cuts into work/life balance. That is an insane number of hours over a working career that could be better spent with family and friends. 
  • Might make a workforce feel more like a family and community (some may not like that of course). 

Cons 

  • Could make being fired or terminated much worse of an experience. That much more emotionally invested in a company. 
  • May contribute to more heat of the moment instances/crimes… being fired and then wanting to get revenge in a multitude of ways… may even sabotage your living arrangements when you leave. 
  • With the high turnover nature of the workforce these days, may be hard to have a stable home that isn’t changing often (Moving to a new place often). 

The cons may make companies learn to treat employees much better and take more care when they do have to fire people (Be more compassionate). May actually give companies more incentive to not fire people so often and carelessly and give people more incentive and reasons to remain at their jobs and be loyal employees.  

I think under the current economy this might never work… losing your job and your home (which I think you should be given so much time to leave of course) would be too damaging. In some instances, could very well lead to homelessness or something of that nature. Put someone in a very bad position. I think in perfect capitalism and a low cost of living, the blow wouldn’t be nearly as bad though, you wouldn’t feel as though your livelihood might be over as you know it. You know what I mean… it wouldn’t have that end of the world feeling that can make people feel very desperate or angry… 

 

Maybe this could just be a potential benefit or option offered after working for a company for so long, not that you have to live there… give a little time to make sure you are the right fit before moving in as well… 

Perhaps it is a horrible idea 

I think it would be a nice option or benefit… it gives me anxiety and depression just thinking about some of these commutes people go through every day in these city areas… would feel like such a loss of life/living in my opinion… my heart goes out to you… Although some people probably don’t mind… 

You get the general idea… just some brainstorming… this could be something that very much changes the landscape of the country… 

Book Club (Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely): Chapter 3…

Some thoughts while reading… in order as they appeared while reading through the chapter… 

 

The chocolates made me think of a mental foot in the door… at free the foot never gets in… at even one cent it gets a foot in the door to spending money, then we are much more willing to weight our decisions. 

  • It’s… ok, I am going to spend some money (foot in the door), now I should do it in a rational weigh. 
  • I also felt the first study was skewed by an aspect of laziness… Similar options and one involves no effort; I might very well just choose the one that requires no effort… Technically takes time and effort. 
  • I felt the second study didn’t necessarily rule that possibility (Laziness, lack of effort) out of the first one. 
  • The second study was much more well designed free! Experiment/study in my opinion 
  • Some people actually prefer Hershey! (side note)… just that results could be skewed a little. 
  • Either way, these studies have caught my attention to the mental power of free and that it holds a special mental power over us… which we can also combat by being self-aware and made more conscious of our decisions (By reading books and studies like these!) 

When reading about the dvd players it makes you realize what a valuable tool the internet can be for combating manipulation by seeking out information. Although, even then so many reviews and testimonials are designed to also manipulate us. 

  • I might think about how much weight I put into amazon reviews, which even good and bad reviews can often be manufactured and used for manipulation. The amazon review trap is a very tough one for me personally… The vasy majority of people just don’t take the time to review things, unless of course they had a particularly extreme feeling about it. (I think the only thing I ever reviewed was a self-help book that helped me out a lot, life changing even!) 

 

With the gift certificate… the free may also be appealing because the certificate is to a particular store usually and who knows if you will use it. Plus, certificates also get us to spend money we weren’t planning on, because we have to go over the amount to use it all. Then there are other reasons; just in general I think people with experience with gift cards may be more prone to just take a free one… 

 

The Amazon Free! Event is a bit disheartening… You like to think they have your economic and environmental interests in mind… but if the goal is just to sell as much as possible it shows you one of the reasons why our environment is being destroyed at such an alarming rate… I could go on from here for a long time about things like this… 

  • I can only hope the dramatic sales increase was an initial response and that people just bought more things in bulk that they needed… Then it may actually be a good thing that they did it… Instead of just buying one or two things at a time and having it mailed over multiple deliveries (bad for the environment), perhaps people just bundled everything together for one delivery (better for the environment)… That may have been their plan all along! 

I didn’t really think the Amazon & AOL were good examples of Free!… To me it seemed that people were being more economically savvy for the most part and in the case of AOL, finally getting what they wanted. 

  • I do agree that we probably do often “Overreact to free” though, like he goes on to say… quite alluring! 

When he was talking about the museum, I was thinking what a good example it was in a way of how equilibrium prices come to be sometimes… the power of the free market… 

  • While we sometimes hate equilibrium prices, they are often important and necessary until situations change… not always of course 
  • Thinking of entertainment… When you price something too cheap and too many people show up, it can be a problem… can make a lot of people mad that don’t get in after making the trip to the venue (can probably start some mini riots sometimes!)… Internet pre-sales have helped a lot with this though, not many people just show up places without purchasing things ahead of time anymore! 
  • I would still say the power of free! also played a large part on that museum day though. 

I am not convinced with the proposed dinner payment plan! Lol 

  • Especially living paycheck to paycheck 
  • May be a better proposal for the financially well off 
  • The logic is sounder if not logically sound if everybody buys the same thing every time, like he showed when he did the math. Granted everyone is unique and it is hard to call anything logically sound when dealing with people/psychology/sociology, we are so complex and not just cookie cutter computers. 
  • I probably wouldn’t suggest it… leaves a lot of room for error and potentially bad blood/relationship problems… I could see a lot of suffering in silence and getting back at people as well… I could foresee resentment for sure. 

I do concur that the price of zero “plays a unique role in our decisions”. 

  • Shows a weak point in our human reasoning 
  • Arming ourselves with the knowledge, and being more self-aware would seem the best course of action… I am not sure how anything in this realm could ever be legislated. 
  • Even knowing all of this… it can still be very hard to not give in! 

I have gained some new perspective on the Netflix (streaming) experience…

Sharing that last post about Netflix and Streaming service helped me gain some perspective…

I think what I fear is losing the old Netflix…

Netflix used to be the ultimate entertainment end user experience in a way… All of our favorite movies ended up at Netflix in a way (trickled down), then we all got to enjoy watching each other’s favorite movies and tv shows… it was a great user experience and helps us have that shared cultural experience… we all start understanding each other’s references and things like that… makes spoof movies more possible, where they poke fun at multiple different movies… it is a good time…

So perhaps I don’t mind that there are all of these new content producers now… I just hope that someone carries the torch of the end user experience and that all these companies aren’t super stingy and share their productions after they have been around so long… share the love at some point people!

Maybe there is just a new level of content in the entertainment industry now… another level that entertainment will have to flow through until it makes it to the end user experience…

I could probably live with that… I want my end user experience though; Netflix was really onto something special there… I personally hope they go back to that formula and carry the torch; I would be a subscriber for life under a certain price.

Then maybe I would have my Netflix and could try out different content producers throughout the year…

We should just pick one streaming service… then let the industry sort it out

I am not the biggest fan of the direction that the entertainment industry is going… especially with all of the new streaming services producing their own content. I personally liked Netflix better before they started producing so much of their own content. When they were more in the business of sharing movies and tv shows from all over the industry that have for the most part proven they are worth watching… know what I mean? It is hard to match that structure making your own content, because it implies that almost everything you are going to make is going to be a hit… which the more it has become 50/50 or less anymore in a lot of ways, we lose interests in taking the gamble. Which most of the things they even promote are their own stuff… you have to search harder now for movies that have proven their worth. I can see a future now with all of these streaming services when they all have their one hit wonders and one month we pay for this service, then switch to a different service the next month to watch theirs… etc… unless you can afford the ever-increasing house payment of entertainment it is becoming.  

We also lose a shared cultural experience when everything is so spread out… I don’t want to go back to just 13 channels on television, but it was nice in a way that the country could enjoy an experience all together. Everybody could talk about it; everybody watched it or probably knew enough to carry on a conversation about it. People want that… part of why it is so depressing everything is getting so spread out and expensive and hard to keep up with. We want those shared cultural experiences and to be a part of them. 

actually think we should all just agree to a price we are going to pay to one service, say Netflix, and say this is what you get to work with. Then let the industry figure out how to best manage it… go back a bit to the way it used to be. Then there would also be a shared cultural experience streaming service, we could all easily share and talk about the same movies and things like that, with variety of course… I am not opposed to the streaming and still be able to sign up for some dvd’s in the mail or whatever… which we could probably eventually even do the dvd’s in the mail digitally… maybe… like have the digital content but have a limit with how many of the “special” movies you can watch in a month or something like that… might be better for the environment as well.  

Sometimes I wonder if we could ever work something out for new releases in theatres for people to be able to watch from home as well?… so many people just want to be a part of the conversation ya know? Might have social anxiety or something, fear of movie theatres, too expensive to go… The entertainment industry hasn’t quite come to terms with acknowledging how powerful of a force that is (Fear of missing out) and how it contributes to pirating… 

I am against pirating, but I understand it at times… We should be able to develop better ways that make people not want to pirate… People (especially low-income people) look at the industry and the way things are run and don’t find it morally wrong to pirate… I guess I am saying that it would seem apparent that the entertainment industry hasn’t developed a system that makes pirating clearly morally wrong, yet prosecutes people that way… there is a lot of grey area… It should be a goal, to develop a system that does that… 

Might need to start trying out some experiments and theories… try some trial and error using new methods of supplying entertainment… Especially in the modern era when we can track data so fast, it shouldn’t be too costly to play around with new methods and be able to adjust pretty fast as you go along. I think there are better ways to do it for both the consumer and the industry…